Posts by Anders Andersen

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Just wondering who on this board has a spouse that is fully in and your awake?

by goingthruthemotions in

i am just curious who on this board is in the same situation has i am?

a spouse that is fully brain doogled in and you are awake to ttatt.. without going into serious detail and no names are given.

i would like to possible talk with one of you all, it's just so helpful to communicate with someone in the same situation as me.. i am located in the southwest united states..

Anders Andersen

Same here...wife still 100% in, I'm out in every way. It's much harder on her than on me...but so far so good.

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What Are the Top JW Issues That Just Burn Your Buns the Most?

by Wild_Thing in

jw
friends

which ones make you the maddest?

covering up of abuse, shunning, failed end of world predictions?.

my list is long and heavy, but the top 3 that set me off the most are:.

Shunning, hands down..
Without shunning, the only thing left to force dubs to obey the wacky rules (no blood!) is 'Jehovah will kill you!'
Without shunning everyone is free to join and leave as they please.
Shunning is a very immoral way to weaponize friends and family against those who don't 100% agree with the leaders.

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The Finished Mystery: 1917 Print

by Hadriel in

anyone have a copy of this book?

i'll pay hard cash :).. i don't know if this is appropriate to post so if not feel free to can the post.. pm if you have a copy and would part with it..

Anders Andersen

@betterdaze,
Thanks for the link!

The university library in my town has an original copy.
And I know a student that will most likely get it for me :-)

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The Finished Mystery: 1917 Print

by Hadriel in

anyone have a copy of this book?

i'll pay hard cash :).. i don't know if this is appropriate to post so if not feel free to can the post.. pm if you have a copy and would part with it..

Anders Andersen

Does anyone know an ISBN number for the book (if it has one)?

Was it ever officially translated to other languages?

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While JWs in the 80s and 90s were attributing magic to demons...

by Island Man in

... pen and teller were showing people how it's really done.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pucaido2x4i.

but jws are not superstitious, no, no.

lol..

Anders Andersen

Through internet I having an ongoing conversation with a JW I never met. Basically we 'fight' each other in a public forum, and try to 'save' each other through email.

In order to get my atheist mind to believe again, he (finally/desperately) pointed me to a series of videos that intend to show 'demon magic' as practised by Criss Angel, David Blaine and such. Because if demons exist, surely JW must be the truth, right?

I'm really taking the time to watch them all, and tear them apart bit by bit. My response includes links to the webshops were many of the 'demon' tricks can be purchased. Lol.

I really hope it makes the guy think....

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S-77 Form--Britain!

by Atlantis in

say wifi, if we don't have this one in the archives would you throw it in there.

some kind folks sent it over and we may need it some day.

.. s-77 form britain (a lot of boxes to check on this one!)..

Anders Andersen

For those who have the experience: are DFed DAed people informed of this form with their name and (very) sensitive information is sent to and archived at the branch?

Are they informed about their personal data being archived for at least 5 years at their local congregation?

If not, that is likely a major breach of privacy laws. At least I'm quite sure it is in my country...

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The Finished Mystery: 1917 Print

by Hadriel in

anyone have a copy of this book?

i'll pay hard cash :).. i don't know if this is appropriate to post so if not feel free to can the post.. pm if you have a copy and would part with it..

Anders Andersen

Hadriel,

I have been looking for a hardcopy of that book as well.
Unfortunately the originals are a bit too expensive for my liking: http://www.ebay.com/bhp/the-finished-mystery

Be aware that the cheaper ones are actually reprints...

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NEW BLOOD CARD w/ FORCED COMPLIANCE also LEGALISM

by apocalypse in

i have looked around and i don't see this covered, so i am starting a thread.. 1) the new "blood card" goes beyond being just a "blood card".. 2) a new edict concerning compliance.. pay attention to the changes.. first, the new card is termed "advance decision to refuse specified medical treatment".

the big change with the card itself is that it includes an 'override' of your "power of attorney".

this is huge.

Anders Andersen

@KateWild,

Check your local laws. In many countries children from age 12 can weigh in on decisions regarding their own medical treatment. Watchtower corp makes sure parents know this and prep their kids according to JW policy.

I know your situation is quite hard and (if I remember correctly) you might not be able to talk freely to your son about this, but in case any issue arise it may be good that you know the law so you can ask a surgeon or judge to talk to your son privately and make sure his decision is taken into account.

Take care...

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CLAM & MWB - July 2016

by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

following cited on page six: of ps 75:4, 5, 10—what is signified by the term “horn”?

the horns of an animal are a powerful weapon.

hence, the term “horn” figuratively denotes power, or strength.

Anders Andersen

So all this means that elders are horny, and the GB are hornier? :-p

Anyway, they love to abuse people's (irrational) love (and fear) of God to make them obey unconditonally :-(

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The Effects Of Instant Information At Your Finger Tips How Will The Watchtower Ever Survive Very Long?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

it is hard to teach that the earth is flat these day do to a more informed society, and now that we have entered the information age i see a whole new ball game is before a rather ignorant bunch of old farts called the governing body.

these guys are totally ignorant by choice and are trying desperately to keep their captive's ignorant for as long as possible.

the gb's internet apperances are all laughable to any sane individual and a total embarasement.

Anders Andersen

Magnum: I believed that people had to have curiosity, integrity, strength, honesty, and a willingness to be different to hear and act on the "ring of truth".

However, I continued to be curious; I continued to question and seek. I grew in honesty and strength. My curiosity, integrity, honesty, etc. led me to where I am today. I believe that I have now reached a 2nd level, a higher level of curiosity and integrity, and I think they many, if not most, JWs won't be able to do that.

The way JW operate, they will most likely only find 'level 1' curious people.
You know, the type of people that might wonder about important questions, but are too lazy (or just not curious enough) to really investigate.
So, when a stranger knocks at their door (or when they are born-in) and delivers the apparent answers on a silver platter on their doorstep, they are curious enough to listen to what he has to say.
And when they hear that initial 'ring-of-truth' their other fine qualities (integrity, strength, honesty) help them to be sucked in to the cult.

Any 'level 2' curious person already did his own research, and if he encounters JW already is much better equipped with knowledge and opinions to see through their bullsh#t.

While writing this I suddenly realize that all those people I encountered in field 'service' that directly rejected me/Watchtower/Jehovah...they were not all ignorant, unwilling to learn or investigate, dishonest or less than integer. Many of them might have been, but a large portion had already investigated all kinds of topics, reached an honest conclusion, and knew up-front that whatever I was going to say wasn't worth their time.
Like I already know up-front that their is no value in letting a young-earth-creationist try to 'prove' to me that the earth is actually a little over 6k years old. I heard it all, he can bring nothing new, so no thanks.

In field service it was me - blindfolded by Watchtower - who wasn't curious, honest, integer and strong enough to really listen to what those people I met had to say, and then investigate that. It was me who was on level 1 or less for all these fine qualities.